Fred Burton Talks to Mike Giglio about Shatter the Nations

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Enjoyed my chat with Mike Giglio, a staff writer at The Atlantic, about his book Shatter the Nations outlining the efforts to defeat ISIS and the war for the caliphate. At it’s peak, ISIS controlled a self-styled “caliphate” that was larger in size than Great Britain. https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/shatter-nations-isis-and-war-caliphate-podcast